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Post by merse on Sept 12, 2010 13:20:17 GMT
We look short of firepower really and need another striker.
Without a fit Benyon we are basically stuffed up front. Gritts is the wrong side of thirty - Zebs seems best out wide and Puffing Billy has been a major damp squib so far.  Seeing as the manager has spent time at the training grounds of Man Utd, Spurs and QPR in the last two weeks, maybe we can anticipate some "drip down" from that fact in the next month. Bigger clubs (especially Premier ones with the quota issue) will now be busilly engaged getting certain development players fixed up with loans of varying sorts at lower status Football League clubs now their own First Team squads have been formulated and the very real problem of a diminishing amount of reserve team football in this day and age.. There is also the "Givemeagame" pool of over three hundred unemployed professional footballers to take into consideration and added together, there is a huge pool of talent available for hire. If Billy Kee has apparent pace and stamina issues, maybe he too will be considered for loaning out if another striker from higher up the "food chain" comes in. |
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Post by chesneygull on Sept 12, 2010 13:21:59 GMT
As one poster has already said - back down to earth with a very big bump!
Either side could / should have won the game in the last quarter and Bevan certainly kept us in the game with some quality saves.
I too had difficulty working out the system and it seemed that the players did too! There were a number of times where two players went for the same ball and also both left it for the other players. Never really got hold of the game and had very little quality possession.
That being said a point is a point (against a very good side in Accrington) and we are still in the mix. You would still fancy us to get something at Stevenage next week and then we have two home games in sucsession in order to cement the current position near the top of the table.
NB I thought our wingers were particularly poor today (Stevens and Carlisle) but things improved with the introduction of Macklin who must be viewing a starting place next Saturday.
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Post by loyalgull on Sept 12, 2010 13:57:28 GMT
form ebbs and flows even for the premier sides,you cant get it right every game,we will improve again for sure
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Post by merse on Sept 12, 2010 14:20:10 GMT
"Form" does indeed ebb and flow, and the more it flows; the greater the percentage of opponents who will set out their stall to try and make it ebb. We should all be able to retain enough memory of how Conference sides came to Plainmoor and "parked the bus" and we should all be intelligent enough to realise that as soon as a degree of competence is achieved at this new elevated level of League 2; the very same will begin to happen again. It's just "what happens" in football and those who expect any different are niaive in the extreme. There will be days when a scruffy, narrow margined away win will need to suffice; there will be days when a share of the points at home must be viewed as a point gained rather than two points lost. Playing away from home against sides like Accrington Stanley might well be less difficult than having them come to you when they merely set their stall out to retain what they started with rather than go gung ho for a win. Someone mentioned to me how (that in their opinion) Southend did exactly as Stanley did yesterday for the last third of the game at Roots Hall last week, in that they too "parked the bus" accross the area between their eighteen yard line and the half way line in order to protect their two goal lead.
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Post by jonnyfive on Sept 12, 2010 15:01:28 GMT
I Secondly, a kick from Bevs saw Kee just offside a few feet inside the Accy half. Kee made no attempt to play or interfere with the ball and the lino called for offside. This gave the Accy players the advantage of a free kick on the half way line rather than their keeper receiving the ball. But surely they deserve that advantage, as TUFC committed an offence?  |
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Post by chelstongull on Sept 12, 2010 15:23:40 GMT
I Secondly, a kick from Bevs saw Kee just offside a few feet inside the Accy half. Kee made no attempt to play or interfere with the ball and the lino called for offside. This gave the Accy players the advantage of a free kick on the half way line rather than their keeper receiving the ball. But surely they deserve that advantage, as TUFC committed an offence? But was an offence committed? How many times have we seen players either hold their hands up (to indicate that they aren't going to play the ball) or stand still as Billy Kee did yesterday. He wasn't 'interfering' with play as he made no attempt to play the ball. |
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Post by royalgull on Sept 12, 2010 15:32:42 GMT
Be patient with Kee, he is 19 years old and only a bit part player at Accy stanley last year. The expectation of him scoring 25+ because he helped himself against an abysmal Tiverton side was way off the mark.
Work in progress, like Carayol was.
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Post by aussie on Sept 12, 2010 15:32:56 GMT
I Secondly, a kick from Bevs saw Kee just offside a few feet inside the Accy half. Kee made no attempt to play or interfere with the ball and the lino called for offside. This gave the Accy players the advantage of a free kick on the half way line rather than their keeper receiving the ball. But surely they deserve that advantage, as TUFC committed an offence? Not if you use common sense which the ref and lino are supposed to do and didn`t! The player was not interfering with play or attempting to benefit from his position therefore he is not deemed to be off-side, otherwise the lino would hold his flag up every time a player is coming back from an off-side position and not even involved in any part of the play , we know it`s normal because we see it all the time in many matches, the Ref is supposed to use his judgment and over rule the lino but failed to do so, this means they were both wrong or someone has changed the rules without telling the rest of us? Next they`ll be flagging off side when a player who is down injured purely because he is there, ridiculous! |
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Post by Dave on Sept 12, 2010 22:07:50 GMT
Many thanks for the match reports, you were all very brave boys and I’m proud of each and everyone one of you and how brave was my dear friend Phil who even put player ratings in his report.  Really pleased me to see swangull do a match report as he has not been on here for a while and I feared he was feeling like is brother who lives in Germany was about some of the things that have gone on here lately. Reading your reports it sounds it was hard to work out what formation we were playing and the players struggled with it as well, at least our back four and the very inform Scott Bevan know what job they have to do for the team and are doing a mightily fine job for us. Up front does seem to be a bit of a concern with Grits not really being able to give us what is needed and Billy Kee is going to need time but we do need someone up there who is going to score the goals for us. Zebs really is far better out on the wing and with Wayne not yet back to where we need him to be and Danny blowing hot and cold I can’t see how we can afford to have Zebs playing upfront. Still we were not at our best it seems and still got a point that took us back to the top of the table and I don’t think any of us expected us to be up there this early in the season. I can see Bucks maybe bringing in a loan player or two if things do not improve in the next few matches as he will not want to see the team slipping down the table as that can end up being a very slippery slope indeed if it gathers momentum. |
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Post by royalgull on Sept 12, 2010 23:38:38 GMT
Gritts is just back from a knock, didn't play much last year and has never ben a real goalscorer. He can offer us a different type of approach and will get better as he gets fitter. Our goal getter wasn't playing unfortunately but if it means he's 100% right for next week then it was the right thing to do. I want Bucks to go back to what we did in the first few games, 4-4-2 and making sure players earn their spot on the side. Lets not try and be too clever and stick to what we do well. Not a great show on Saturday but I am convinced accy Stanley will beat a umber of sides this season so it may well be a point gained. Let's not hit the panic button and go and sign a load of loanees again just yet. Top of the league, and the only way opposition have managed to score are stupid shots from 30 yards!  there's loads right with us at the moment, it just needs some fine tuning. |
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Post by ospelgull on Sept 13, 2010 7:20:55 GMT
In our last two matches I saw and read that we lost the battle in midfield. Our defence is okay and in attack we can score, no doubt about that. We should be allright this season and maybe people have to much raised expectations because of our good start. This was a match we could have lost but we didn't.
Thanks for all the match reports and hopefully we'll be able to 'do one' over Stevenage next saturday. I'll be watching the Gulls at Broadhall Way.
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Post by merse on Sept 13, 2010 16:11:29 GMT
There is also the Givemeagame pool of over three hundred unemployed professional footballers to take into consideration As Danny Senda is being spoken to regarding a possible contract by the manager, then I guess we are set to take at least one of the massive list of unemployed pro's looking for a job. Judging from my previous knowledge of him, Senda will increase options should the decision be to play with either wing backs or a five man midfield ~ I cannot see Bucks sacrificing Robertson's height attributes in replacing him as the right back in a like for like 4-4-2 set up. |
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Post by ohtobeatplainmoor on Sept 13, 2010 22:15:17 GMT
He's been a real "steady Eddie" so far. I never thought his perhaps limited acceleration (although not that short of pace over distance) would allow him to ever be moulded into a decent right-back, but I think he is very reliable option there now. I still think that he has a long-term future at centre-half but he's doing just fine where he is.
I felt that we lacked width on Saturday, but that was bound to happen when Accy packed the midfield with 5 very able footballers. Will Senda be able to add that extra dimension to unlock a team when that happens again? I hope so but given his recovery we will have to be patient as he overcomes both the physical injury but (perhaps just as importantly) the psychological impact that such serious injuries will have had.
Two years ago Danny Senda wouldn't have even have had to consider dropping to League 2, but perhaps we stand to benefit from a very able footballer getting back after a long lay-off just as we did with Jason Fowler. It took Fowler a little while to get up to speed but boy when he did it was well worth the wait. I hope that if Senda can agree terrms then some of the usual suspects (less than 1% of the pop) will give him the chance to get going again.
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Post by Dave on Sept 13, 2010 22:37:57 GMT
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Post by pappy on Sept 13, 2010 22:52:14 GMT
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there's loads right with us at the moment, it just needs some fine tuning. 
