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Post by petef on May 17, 2012 9:36:59 GMT
Don't think Cheltenham will be playing an open game like we did on Sunday. I really think we got that wrong on Sunday in a first leg where it is so important not to concede. More than likely five across the middle to suffocate and frustrate our midfield and rely on us committing forward to catch us on the break with their tricky and speedy wing men. I just don't think we will have enough to break them down and score two or three without conceding. It would be a disaster for them to let their two goal advantage slip. Their confidence will be sky high whilst our s has been knocked back of late the players should feel no pressure as most of us believe the tie is lost anyway. We need nine or ten at there very best tonight to stand a chance and perhaps some Ex Lax in the Cheltenham players pre match drinks! An interesting game of chess awaits.
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Post by register on May 17, 2012 10:18:51 GMT
Well at least we have to start with 442 tonight...don't we? Wouldn't be surprised to see Howe start on a pair of crutches though! A mistake over the last six or so games playing a lone striker who wasn't even half way fit, and our results have shown it! Before the usual suspects start...no I am not a football league manager I am just expressing my opinion as a fan on a fans forum! Can we win tonight...of course we can. Will we win tonight...doubtfull! I see on the OS that we are still going to play with a lone striker! Oh well, I suppose it's best to stick to a formation that's got us a shit load of goals this season! ;D
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Post by petef on May 17, 2012 10:50:38 GMT
Well at least we have to start with 442 tonight...don't we? Wouldn't be surprised to see Howe start on a pair of crutches though! A mistake over the last six or so games playing a lone striker who wasn't even half way fit, and our results have shown it! Before the usual suspects start...no I am not a football league manager I am just expressing my opinion as a fan on a fans forum! Can we win tonight...of course we can. Will we win tonight...doubtfull! I see on the OS that we are still going to play with a lone striker! Oh well, I suppose it's best to stick to a formation that's got us a shit load of goals this season! ;D Really don't think we have the players to change it much Danny will come in and "not" play as a conventional winger and we have no genuine right sided threat who can beat a wide defender and get a decent cross in. Maklin could have been a contender but that now looks an impossibility for whatever reason. Do we have any forward in the squad to scare their defence? Its worth remebering when we did have a real threat in Billy Bodin we looked a much better package up top. Also interesting to see that Billy doesnt even get a start for Crewe which demonstrates how good their young squad is.
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Post by register on May 17, 2012 11:24:45 GMT
I see on the OS that we are still going to play with a lone striker! Oh well, I suppose it's best to stick to a formation that's got us a shit load of goals this season! ;D Really don't think we have the players to change it much Danny will come in and "not" play as a conventional winger and we have no genuine right sided threat who can beat a wide defender and get a decent cross in. Maklin could have been a contender but that now looks an impossibility for whatever reason. Do we have any forward in the squad to scare their defence?Its worth remebering when we did have a real threat in Billy Bodin we looked a much better package up top. Also interesting to see that Billy doesnt even get a start for Crewe which demonstrates how good their young squad is. The answer to the highlighted question is NO! Surely though, if we can't scare them with quality, we must scare them with quantity!
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Post by loyalgull on May 17, 2012 14:50:45 GMT
there goalie is the weak link according to cheltenham fans here on our holiday,surely he will have a blinder tonight then if thats the case.We have got to just go for it in my mind,mansell due a goal a goal even ellis?
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Post by Dave on May 17, 2012 17:42:00 GMT
A nice early goal can turn this tie around on its head and if we do get one, then there is every chance we can go and win. Do we have three goals in us? On paper maybe not, but then we all know that any thing can and does happen in football.
I can’t see there being a bumper crowd tonight as some fans might just feel the game is already over and we have no chance at all of turning things around. We have all seen many great comebacks in our time watching this wonderful game and who knows, this could be one of them.
To not make it through to Wembley would be a second disappointment the fans of this great club would have suffered this season, but fans should not forget to even be challenging at the top of the table, is a major achievement for such a small poorly supported club.
I say poorly and only mean at home games as our travelling fans do the club very proud and in my view apart from a few idiots, are the best behaved fans in all the land. So a big well done to them and also all the fans who have managed to get to home games and I only wish my circumstances were different, as I would so love to be standing on the popside with you all.
What will be will be, I only hope no matter what the result, I read on here later the players gave their all, that is all that can be asked of them and expected by those who have paid good money to attend games and given the lads their full support during the games.
Here is hoping the right result that will put our team one step closer to promotion, I still feel inside its going to happen this season and won’t give up hope until there is nothing left to hope for.
Good luck lads, you have done this club proud already this season and will some real grit and determination and just a little slice of luck, you may just pull off the impossible.
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Post by frankfurt gull on May 17, 2012 17:57:26 GMT
Football is a funnny old game, all the noises are coming from Cheltenum (Wembley) but its going to be a night to remember at Plainmoor tonight, hold on to to seats if you are sat on Bristows Bench! If Eintracht Frankfurt can manage to get promoted into the Bundesliga next season then anything is possible!
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Post by JamesB on May 17, 2012 18:05:35 GMT
Jarvis up front, Stevens back on the wing. Atieno stays on the bench
Also intriguing to see Yeoman on the bench ahead of McPhee
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Post by register on May 17, 2012 18:43:54 GMT
I predict an evening to remember at Plainmoor this evening, 2-0 for us after 90 minutes, extra time and we win on penalties! Cheltenumwembley ist ein kleiner Wischer! Strangely enough, I've just had a chat with Arfur my budgie, and he predicts a 2:0 scoreline with a goal for us in extra time...if he's wrong, he's in the frying pan tomorrow! ;D
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Post by frankfurt gull on May 17, 2012 19:13:28 GMT
Attendance?
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Post by JamesB on May 17, 2012 19:30:03 GMT
We haven't disgraced ourselves but neither is it particularly great
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Post by JamesB on May 17, 2012 20:29:31 GMT
I've backed Ling since Day 1 but that goal is his fault for the last sub. He shouldn't have changed the defence, as awful as Ellis has been
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Post by petef on May 17, 2012 21:26:06 GMT
I predict an evening to remember at Plainmoor this evening, 2-0 for us after 90 minutes, extra time and we win on penalties! Cheltenumwembley ist ein kleiner Wischer! Strangely enough, I've just had a chat with Arfur my budgie, and he predicts a 2:0 scoreline with a goal for us in extra time...if he's wrong, he's in the frying pan tomorrow! ;D Deep fried in batter is best. The end of a tortuously successful season, a controdiction in terms perhaps but thats how I feel after tonight. God it was hard lisrtening to their passionate and vocal supporters whilst we were quite as door mice obviously not believing we could turn it around. When the footballing Gods are not on your side you just as well pack up and go home. 0-0 at half time was a crazy score line considering the near misses and attempts on target we had but as the realists amongst us predicted we just didn't have the cutting edge where it matters most or indeed the good fortune. This semi was lost six or seven weeks ago our form tailed off and the long arduous season had taken its toll on many of the players most of whom had started every match. No squad rotation we had success for most of the season with our first eleven with little in reserve. All in all and considering how many players Lingy used it has been and exceptional effort but also so disappointing . The bigger questions will soon have to be answered and will we be able to build on this and improve a notch or two or will the squad be torn apart once again, Eunan Bobby and Mark Ellis the obvious candidates , basically the core of our success. Holliday next up , Euros and then Olympics. Hey lifes not so bad.
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Post by JamesB on May 17, 2012 21:49:45 GMT
*puts positive cap on*
At least we didn't play badly tonight. We looked better going forward. Although we didn't take our chances, we did at least create some
A bit of strengthening and we may be up there again - as I said earlier this week (or was it last week?), we clearly have the core of a good side because that's two years in a row in the League play-offs, and 4 of the last 5 in the play-offs generally
I should imagine we'll lose Eunan but we'll get cash for him wherever he goes. I'm not placing too much hope in Nathan Craig yet as the last thing we need is a false Messiah. Wouldn't mind seeing the back of Ellis either as he's been a bit rubbish lately - Saah is clearly the class act at the back and has been virtually all season. A couple of centre-backs, a quick winger (Bodin as part of the O'Kane deal has been mooted) and Easton in midfield and I think we should do OK. I'm sure Ling's got some ideas
The problem is up front. OK, so we did win all those games when Howe was out over Christmas, but Atieno hasn't looked as good lately. Jarvis did OK tonight but OK isn't quite enough. I'd keep him on as a squad player, and the same for Atieno. But we do need another striker. Again, Cheltenham show that the best way to do this is to have options - Burgess, Spencer, Mohamed, Duffy and Goulding, all good strikers for this level
With O'Kane and Ellis presumably gone, that should free up some wages. I'd also add in McPhee as I'm not sure he's quite up to it at this level if we want to regularly challenge - he was what we needed at the time we signed him because we were expecting a transition season, but I don't think it's a coincidence that he has disappeared from the scene later on when we were towards the top. Also, if they aren't going to play, Halpin and Yeoman aren't worth keeping. Will be interesting to see what happens with Niall Thompson as he looked very good in the Man Utd game
I just hope Bobby stays. It'll be difficult to find someone as good as him if he does go. I can't imagine him going unless a Championship sides comes in for him, but there are 24 Championship sides out there. Plus there are a couple of others throwing around the cash at the moment which concerns me (*cough* Swindon *cough* Rotherham). I doubt he'll go anywhere to sit on the bench, though - he has already done that at Villa. He's too good for that
Though it would be easy to slip into pessimism, I think we're too good at this stage to be struggling big time next year, unless a lot of players leave and rash decisions are made by the board (and I'm sure they won't, because they're not daft). We have a good manager playing an effective way. There are a couple of dead-weights in the squad but it's the same for everyone. We can be pleased with this season, but just a bit disappointed it fell apart in the last 7 games
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Post by rjdgull on May 17, 2012 22:36:23 GMT
Well, we gave it a good go and were very unlucky not to score in the first half. Probably left too much to do after the interval and conceding that all important first goal was the killer, particularly going in off the post again. The players gave it everything and can't fault their committment but it just wasn't meant to be. Ellis was MotM but thought Saah was a class act tonight and what a different player from the first few months of the season.
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