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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2012 16:07:37 GMT
The north starts at Leicester in my opinion. But then Gloucester is very northern despite being southern. It's all very confusing. Personally I'm just 'Derbyshire', which can be either when it suits. Very surprised to visit Gloucester, on the way back from our last trip to the PRSD, and find that it reminded me more of Doncaster than Bath. I was expecting something a bit more, well Southern really. I'd say that the North begins at Clay Cross. Certainly the South of Derbyshire is a foreign land where the citizens have strange accents and say "canna" and "wunna" instead of "can't" and won't". They also get Midlands Today instead of Look North with Harry Gration and Christa Ackroyd, and that seems to me to be as good a way as any of drawing the line. And on the same subject, I love Devon with all my heart, as you know, but Spotlight is bloody terrible! |
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Post by JamesB on Sept 30, 2012 16:22:31 GMT
I can see Rene going to a bigger, richer League Two club - Rotherham or someone of that ilk. Or perhaps a struggling League One club - on current form, Oldham or Coventry or someone like that. Or Bournemouth, considering they seem to be keen on signing half of League Two. But yeah, I can't see him staying. And the worrying question is would Ling actively replace him with a permanent signing? I can see him trying to ride it out with Jarvis or Yeoman or another botched solution, or at least someone cheap
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2012 16:39:47 GMT
I'd say that the North begins at Clay Cross. Certainly the South of Derbyshire is a foreign land where the citizens have strange accents and say "canna" and "wunna" instead of "can't" and won't". They also get Midlands Today instead of Look North with Harry Gration and Christa Ackroyd, and that seems to me to be as good a way as any of drawing the line. Clay Cross? That explains why you titled the Alfreton thread as a "drizzly day in the Midlands." I was starting to wonder. Wildebeeste and myself belong to a generation which had its regional identity partly moulded by the boundaries of local TV as drawn up in the 1950s and early 1960s. Just think if there had always been Cornwall to Bristol telly. Thankfully there wasn't and, what's more, we had the extra pleasure of taking the piss out of anything produced in Plymouth. And, in preparation for the PRSD citizenship test, I suggest Wildebeeste Googles "Gus Honeybun". Immediately. He may also care to borrow a book I have about the A303. That road, and Salisbury Plain itself, play an important part in our relationship with London in a way that may be lost on somebody from Derbyshire. Going back to regional TV, I'm warming to Harry Gration and Christa Ackroyd. Harry's older than me and Christa isn't much younger. But what happened to Austin Mitchell? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2012 18:39:55 GMT
But is Gus an Argyle supporter? Or is he the mystery bunny who could yet come to the rescue of Truro City?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2012 18:47:47 GMT
Gus would have been an Argyle supporter.
It was an almost Masonic requirement amongst local TV personalities.
Stuffed or otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2012 18:56:53 GMT
I've just been looking at Bob's Board, a Chesterfield forum, where there seems to be a degree of sympathy towards our whistle blower. One or two home supporters found the incident amusing it appears.
Somebody there is saying that he was hiding from our supporters behind some skips outside the ground. One of the locals took pity on him and gave him a lift to the station.
A curious little incident.
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Post by chambta on Sept 30, 2012 19:22:19 GMT
I suppose this identity 'thing' around the regions depends who you're with. Derbyshire itself is split. South of Clay Cross folk would be more inclined to align themselves with the 'Midlands' or 'East Midlands'. I agree that this is partly down to local TV and perhaps even down to the 'postcoding' of the county - the DE/S split. You can go up towards the Yorkshire border and even if people don't speak in a Sheffield tongue they'll refer to that city as 'town'. In the extreme NW of Derbyshire life is centred around Manchester - they read the Manchester Evening News, drink Boddingtons (still?) and perhaps even follow Lancashire at cricket. To them Derby is as relevant as Lincoln, Bristol or Barnsley.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2012 20:09:19 GMT
I suppose this identity 'thing' around the regions depends who you're with. Derbyshire itself is split. South of Clay Cross folk would be more inclined to align themselves with the 'Midlands' or 'East Midlands'. I agree that this is partly down to local TV and perhaps even down to the 'postcoding' of the county - the DE/S split. You can go up towards the Yorkshire border and even if people don't speak in a Sheffield tongue they'll refer to that city as 'town'. In the extreme NW of Derbyshire life is centred around Manchester - they read the Manchester Evening News, drink Boddingtons (still?) and perhaps even follow Lancashire at cricket. To them Derby is as relevant as Lincoln, Bristol or Barnsley. There's other counties like that too. You could split Dorset by post codes - DT (Dorchester) is more West Country; BH (Bournemouth) is "The South" as the Greater Hampshire area grandly likes to style itself. I've referenced this before by quoting the Bournemouth chant: "West Country, wank, wank, wank!" I think that's conclusive. Wiltshire is an odd one too, separated into different chunks by the dark looming presence of The Plain. Salisbury looks to Southampton; Trowbridge to Bristol/Bath; Swindon to God Knows Where. North Devon is distinct to South Devon. I tend to say "up in Barnstaple" even when I'm in Sheffield. |
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Post by loyalgull on Sept 30, 2012 20:09:32 GMT
I've just been looking at Bob's Board, a Chesterfield forum, where there seems to be a degree of sympathy towards our whistle blower. One or two home supporters found the incident amusing it appears. Somebody there is saying that he was hiding from our supporters behind some skips outside the ground. One of the locals took pity on him and gave him a lift to the station. A curious little incident. haha what a donker,only an idiot would blow a whistle during a football match and only a bigger idiot would do it when his own side is on the attack,no wonder he was in hiding,but fair dues he has tried to apologise,one of the most stupid pranks i have ever heard at a match |
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Post by lambethgull on Sept 30, 2012 21:33:20 GMT
I've just been looking at Bob's Board, a Chesterfield forum, where there seems to be a degree of sympathy towards our whistle blower. One or two home supporters found the incident amusing it appears. Somebody there is saying that he was hiding from our supporters behind some skips outside the ground. One of the locals took pity on him and gave him a lift to the station. A curious little incident. haha what a donker,only an idiot would blow a whistle during a football match and only a bigger idiot would do it when his own side is on the attack,no wonder he was in hiding,but fair dues he has tried to apologise,one of the most stupid pranks i have ever heard at a match I don't think the apology means much to be honest. It looks to me like a pretty transparent ploy to be accepted back into the fold. By getting his mea culpa in early doors he probably thinks he can limit the criticism. Even someone that dim is unlikely to think fronting it out as if he did nothing wrong is going to be a winning strategy. I'd like to know what he thought he was doing, how long he'd been planning it, why he chose to do it during a Torquay attack, what medication he's on....that sort of thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 10:11:31 GMT
As regards the whistler, I also find it difficult to subscribe to the 'one moment of madness' theory. I doubt whether he would have bothered going to the trouble of taking a whistle with him to the match if he had absolutely no intention of blowing it. Even the attire points heavily towards a 'look at me' character who has calculated in advance a further way to make himself the centre of attention. There's certainly some truth in the belief that people get their concepts of geographical dividing lines from Regional TV. With a change in area covered, the local ITV news that I watch in Devon now occasionally features a story from Cheltenham. Yet when I moved from Cornwall up to Cheltenham in the 1980's, I didn't consider I was any longer residing in The West Country. With 'Midlands Today' providing my local news, plus my habit of nipping up the M5 on a Saturday afternoon to watch Ossie Ardiles, and later Keith Burkinshaw's West Brom , I felt I was on the southern edge of the Midlands. Visiting friends would also confirm that Gloucestershire was much colder than the South West, thereby drawing a further distinction. It is so true how these Regional TV stations and their staff rarely disguise their favouritism within their broadcasting area. Gus Honeybun was undoubtedly an Argyle fan.Going back a couple of years I remember sitting in the stand at Home Park and at half time overhearing Michael Foot requesting "Ninety six Bunny Hops please" before Gus explained that his TV days were now long behind him. One of the biggest scandals relating to regional TV and football has to be the shameful 'War of the Monster Trucks ' debacle by which Yorkshire TV alienated itself from a large proportion of Sheffield, probably still to this day. In 1991, making my first ever visit to Wembley Stadium, I was able to not only enjoy John Sheridan's winning goal against Manchester Utd, but on return home rewind the video and re-live the whole thing again, including extended highlights of post match interviews, celebrations etc provided by central TV and virtually every other ITV region, with the glaring exception of Yorkshire TV ! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Monster_TrucksAs for the evening news programme, the last time I was in Sheffield 'Look North' was more often than not referred to as 'Look Leeds' so great was the extent to which it focused almost entirely on that one city while ignoring others in it's region. Barton Downs And away from Regional TV to Freeview. For those who don't want to join the queue to borrow Barton's book, there is an alternative that you can settle down to watch while drinking your Ovaltine this evening: 10pm BBC4 'A303: Highway to the Sun Tom Fort travels along the 92-mile-long road from the Hampshire town of Basingstoke to Honiton in Devon. Originally designed in the 1960s, the route has been the subject of many proposed upgrades - several of which were strongly opposed due to their potential impact on sites of historic and natural significance, including Stonehenge. The programme charts the highway's turbulent history, as well as examining the development of the region over the past 5,000 years (General Education/Science/Factual Topics). |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 10:43:05 GMT
Read all about it in The Star: Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 10:53:17 GMT
Thanks for the tip off, Alpine Joe, about A303: Highway to the Sun on BBC4 tonight. I've been waiting for it to come round again since reading the book.
As for regional TV, I have met Natalie Cornah. Her dogs have Argyle collars and leads. I may have told you that before but we need to be vigilant when it comes to the dangers of media manipulation.
Look Leeds? Well, yes. There's a story in the news at present which will require delicate handling by the team tonight. And will they mention Sheffield and Doncaster's rugby league successes?
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Post by stuartB on Oct 1, 2012 14:44:23 GMT
Thanks for the tip off, Alpine Joe, about A303: Highway to the Sun on BBC4 tonight. I've been waiting for it to come round again since reading the book. As for regional TV, I have met Natalie Cornah. Her dogs have Argyle collars and leads. I may have told you that before but we need to be vigilant when it comes to the dangers of media manipulation. Look Leeds? Well, yes. There's a story in the news at present which will require delicate handling by the team tonight. And will they mention Sheffield and Doncaster's rugby league successes? thanks Alpine and Bartie, I'll take a look at the A303 programme as A303 passes very close to my birthplace in Yarcombe (A30), uncomfortably close to that foreign county Somerset |
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Post by JamesB on Oct 1, 2012 21:48:21 GMT
RE the whistleblower:
"Torquay United is full of stuffy old farts. Discuss"
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