Coronavirus

It doesn’t instil a lot of confidence in these jabs does it? 


First of all the government say a second jab in 3 weeks, then it’s a second jab in 3 months, then it’s.......I don’t think I’ll be having the first jab let alone a second...whenever that might be! 

The word ethics has been mentioned above, personally, I think the word should actually read ethnic...as in ethnic cleansing!

We all know the problem the government has had paying the poor old pensioners. Continually pushing up the retirement age, pensioners having to sell their houses to cover care home bills, and on and on it goes. This government and previous governments have just swept the problem under the carpet. 

Along comes COVID and Wham...problem solved. 90% of the people dying are pensioners, what’s the daily average for deaths at the moment, 500-600-700. No wonder Rishi can splash the cash, let’s say the final death number is 100.000, which means 90.000 pensioners are no longer getting a pension, all the care homes are empty, the silly old buggers are no longer stealing our oxygen...a bit of Remoaner speech at the end there! 

A pat on the back for the government, and all the bad bits just swept under that carpet again! 

You tell me what’s wrong with this country. 

swatcat 


While those free from the risk of Covid infections, safe in the knowledge that their vaccine is protecting them, may wish to resume their lives with gay abandon, I hope they will do so while leaving those who have chosen not to be vaccinated to make their own decisions on how risk averse they want to be.

They know at the moment that there are already estimated to be in excess of 3 million illegal immigrants in Britain, who obviously won’t be getting a letter from a GP inviting them along for a jab, and plenty more arriving by various means of transport, backs of lorries, boats etc, evading the Authorities on a daily basis.

Those choosing not to get inoculated, will realise that in addition to that, the number of potentially asymptomatic spreaders could well be about to go through the roof, with everyone getting the vaccine possibly being added to that group.

As swatcat points out, a negative test, assuring you that nobody boarding the plane has coronavirus, could be discontinued, and instead perhaps several hundred people who have had the vaccine all being allowed to fly …. each of them, as far as we know at the moment, not ruled out from being capable of asymptomatically passing on the virus, yet with the self assurance that their own safety is mostly ensured.

Shouldn’t the unvaccinated be free to make their own risk assessment ? If it’s a case that the more that are vaccinated, the more potentially asymptomatic spreaders there are likely to be once we resume mingling ? ... then all the more reason for the unvaccinated to think even more carefully about whether they wish to join a plane load of passengers, particularly if those are mostly vaccinated, with no give away Covid symptoms to warn you.

Government could of course restore their ‘freedom’ from the risk of infection, by compulsorily locking them up at home and preventing them from travelling. But a willingness to accept the risk would have been indicated by declining the vaccine already (not in the case of our many illegals of course) and neither would be being prevented from travelling feel much like ‘freedom’.

If we are in the process of turning the majority of the country into potential asymptomatic spreaders of Covid, then yes, make that abundantly clear to all those considering opting against the vaccine, warn them of how much the risk to them would then be likely to increase, but don’t compulsorily ‘protect’ them against their wishes.

But for the moment, it's one step at a time, and for the elderly, it's emerging fit and healthy from the vaccine procedure that they'll hope to achieve first   link - Roll up ! , roll up !

Alpine - regarding Dr Patterson's comments - to waste doses is bizarre of course, but a 3 week gap between 1st and 2nd injection is required, (as trialled) - the explanation may lie there. Yet as it happens, I know 2 front line NHS workers in Devon who have had both jabs already. It's a complex and intense scene atm.

You’re heading back to City 17 again...people who actually use their brain and decide they don’t want to join a queue and be jabbed in the arm should be penalised...you’re going to fit in well on this site!

I think the figure of 3 million illegal immigrants was a figure from a few years back...they don’t update it for obvious reasons! And you’re under some delusion that even one of them is going to step forward to be jabbed...yep, you’re really gonna fit in! 🤘

Mmmm...these posts of yours Swatty, they seem a bit too Squeaky Clean...almost bordering on propaganda! 

You’re not related to the German head of propaganda from the last war are you, what was his name again, Gorbals or something...or was that the German chap who parachuted into Scotland? 

You’re not sat in a dingy Whitehall office with Rob on one side of you and Miss Moneypenny on tother are you? 

Mmmm...very suspicious!

City 17: Imagine being in China during the time of Mao, and you didn’t agree with what he said...something like that. 

I'd like to know more about this awful event in Norway with the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9151341/Norway-adjusts-advice-vaccine-deaths-isnt-alarmed.html

But it is very alarming - let's hope this is the only adverse event that occurs. One for the anti-vax brigade . . . . .