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Post by Dave on Sept 21, 2010 22:11:49 GMT
Just to let you all know that in Tuesday nights matchday programme for our again against Aldershot, the TFF will have a four page special all about Albert Hutchinson.
Much of the content on this thread along with some of the images will be used and our normal pages in this Saturdays programme make reference to this TFF four page special.
We will make sure we find a way to get a copy of the programme to Derek Hutchinson as a way to say thanks to him for his great input on this thread.
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Post by Jon on Sept 21, 2010 22:21:54 GMT
I have found out what happened to Albert after the War!
The Football Herald dated 19/10/46 (just after Albert's 36th birthday) reports him as playing for Buxton alongside two other ex-Torquay players - Willis Gregg and George Daniels.
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Post by derekhutchinson on Sept 22, 2010 16:10:54 GMT
Thank you Dave ,Jon,budleigh and all others that have put in so much on these pages.
I will sort out some postage etc for the program when you have it finalised.
I am still waiting for my fathers brother to sort out some other clippings so will be in and out the forum as I get my hands on them.
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Post by Dave on Sept 28, 2010 23:11:31 GMT
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Post by derekhutchinson on Sept 30, 2010 8:55:02 GMT
What a splendid job Leigh has done on the TFF program.
Today would have been my grandfathers 100th Birthday and I am so happy that he is remembered 26 years after his passing.
Thank you all for the hard work and research that has been put in and a TFF that is second to none.
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Post by derekhutchinson on Sept 30, 2010 11:35:27 GMT
Here's one for the History buffs, apparently Torquay United played a friendly against the sailors of the German battleship Scharnhorst just before war broke out.
Would anyone have any details of this ?
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Post by merse on Sept 30, 2010 11:41:39 GMT
 ................and no doubt most of those poor buggers lost their lives when the ship went down during the Battle of North Cape on Boxing Day 1943
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Post by Budleigh on Sept 30, 2010 12:03:44 GMT
A Pathe film of the Story of the Scharnhorst can be seen at the link below including her capture... Amazing to think that the shells being shown fired and sinking the boat probably killed men who had played in that match. That some of the prisoners being brought ashore after being rescued may well have also been in that team... www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=23263This is also wonderful with interviews with those involved in the sinking... www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=23257 |
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Post by derekhutchinson on Sept 30, 2010 13:04:29 GMT
A Smile!  My Dad has informed me that there was a shield involved which ended up at Alberts mothers home. She apparently had it buried in the garden because she thought Hitler was coming for it and wanted it back. Interestingly, The street was bombed leaving her home the only one left standing. Whether this story is true or not, it has been told many times when I was growing up. |
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Post by Jon on Sept 30, 2010 16:36:37 GMT
It was good to see the club using the programme to pay tribute to a man who played a huge part in making the football club what it is today. Leigh did a tremendous job in bringing together all the bits and bobs on this thread into a coherent piece.
Happy 100th Albert!
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Post by Jon on Sept 30, 2010 16:41:14 GMT
Here's one for the History buffs, apparently Torquay United played a friendly against the sailors of the German battleship Scharnhorst just before war broke out. Would anyone have any details of this ? It was NOT the Scharnhorst that Torquay played against it was the Schlesien. wehrmacht-history.com/kriegsmarine/pre-dreadnoughts/schlesien-pre-dreadnought.htmen.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_SchlesienThe name is similar enough to cause confusion. You could imagine that if the Scharnhorst hit the headlines during the War, a Torquay player might think “Blimey. I’m sure that’s the lot we played against a couple of years ago!” The Torquay v Schlesien match was played on 14 April 1937 at Plainmoor. It was a benefit match for full back Lew Tapp. In truth, the sailors were not fitting opposition for a Football League team but I suppose there was some glamour attached to playing against a foreign team and the match would have doubled up as a goodwill exercise in the days when everyone was still hoping for peace in our time. The Germans did the Nazi salute before the game. The match ended up an incredible 11-5 to Torquay with Ben Morton helping himself to seven goals, the others coming from Philbin, Daniels, Green (pen) and an own goal. My Dad has informed me that there was a shield involved which ended up at Alberts mothers home. She apparently had it buried in the garden because she thought Hitler was coming for it and wanted it back. Interestingly, The street was bombed leaving her home the only one left standing. Amazing! That's the kind of REAL history you can only get by talking to people, not from any book or old newspaper. If “the Schlesien Shield” might still be buried in your great-grandmother’s garden, can you please tell us exactly where she used to live? I’m sending Budleigh up there with a shovel! |
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Post by Budleigh on Sept 30, 2010 16:55:36 GMT
To add to all the other holes I've dug myself into over the years?!
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Post by derekhutchinson on Sept 30, 2010 19:16:31 GMT
Sorry about the confusion with the ship name, I did hear from my Dad that Some of the German players were invited by Albert to his home in Sheffield where they were treated to dinner. I believe that they also gave the Nazi salute on leaving.
I will get the address this weekend and see if I can get permission to use a metal detector on their back garden although I would imagine that the wood section would have degraded if one could find it however, It's worth a try.
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Post by stuartB on Sept 30, 2010 19:50:05 GMT
Sorry about the confusion with the ship name, I did hear from my Dad that Some of the German players were invited by Albert to his home in Sheffield where they were treated to dinner. I believe that they also gave the Nazi salute on leaving. I will get the address this weekend and see if I can get permission to use a metal detector on their back garden although I would imagine that the wood section would have degraded if one could find it however, It's worth a try. i can feel one of Dave's TFF outings coming on ;D |
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Post by Jon on Sept 30, 2010 22:03:18 GMT
I will get the address this weekend and see if I can get permission to use a metal detector on their back garden although I would imagine that the wood section would have degraded if one could find it however, It's worth a try. Go for it Derek. Dig for victory! When I think about it, I would imagine it is probably an old tradition in an international friendly for some kind of shield / memento to be given as a gesture of goodwill (although the Germans weren't showing much goodwill a few years after this game!). I know that the Plainmoor boardroom used to have (and I hope still does, if Chris Roberts didn't pawn it to pay the electricity bill) a shield presented by the Jersey FA when we played them in a friendly in 1997. I also recall that Torquay had made some kind of engraved shield for Smena Minsk who were due to play us a few years ago, but cried off at the last minute. We played a friendly against Newton Abbot instead and if I recall correctly the "Smena Minsk Shield" was offered up as an additional prize in the 50/50 draw. I wonder who got that and when it will turn up on e-bay! |
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